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So we don't really have a government right now?
Topic Started: Jun 26 2016, 04:26 PM (1,314 Views)
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The Prime Minister has resigned, the chancellor is likely going too, most of the shadow cabinet has resigned and Jeremy Corbyn will probably resign soon as well. Right after we just left the European Union. I don't know if I like where this is heading. The vacuum created by this instability could lead to parties like UKIP taking advantage of the situation and gaining more influence in parliament. We should be united but instead the government has fallen to pieces.


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It's heading that way unless something gets sorted out soon. Fortunately we still have government departments doing their jobs despite the leadership and opposition being non existent.


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Says alot about modern democracy where the upper leadership just ran off in the middle of the night like a deadbeat dad.......and that hasn't really affected business as usual.

Mind, the UK got real good at "business as usual under extraordinary circumstances"
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Isn't there anyone who's officially supposed to take over as PM if the PM resigns? In the United States, if the president resigns then the VP takes office. If the VP also resigns, the Speaker takes over, followed by the president pro temp, and so on down the line of succession.
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Right? Who needs the lying mother f***ers anyway? They didn't even have any policies. Like I said before, my concern is simply that it leaves room for some much more awful people to sneak in.

They're supposedly preparing to elect a new party leader before October. In the mean time the current Prime Minister and his Chancellor are lame ducks.
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Isn't there anyone who's officially supposed to take over as PM if the PM resigns? In the United States, if the president resigns then the VP takes office. If the VP also resigns, the Speaker takes over, followed by the president pro temp, and so on down the line of succession.
Yes there is.

However it looks like they keep passing the buck down the line and runfor the door.
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It's really quite interesting how becoming President is a huge honour and generally a title people all over the world respect but Prime Minister is just like some reluctant obligation in comparison.


I wonder if it would be good for the UK to split up at this point? Each country could manage themselves more effectively instead of just one area governing all of them. Of course we'll need to be united on some fronts like health care and trade.
In any case it's quite likely that Scotland will be leaving the UK soon, unless this second referendum vote goes through so it's partly happening anyway.

Not really sure what the point in voting again is people will probably just do the same thing and manipulated by the same or similar information.
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No Scotland is not leaving the UK soon. They might rejoin the E.U though with some clever negotiating. Wales can't either. Nor do they want to. Second referendum isn't happening either. The fact that there was some fraudulent names on the petition weaken the prospect even further.


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It really feels like with such a momentous decision, the government should have at least been competent enough to have two separate plans of action. I mean, they did have months to prepare for either outcome.
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It really feels like with such a momentous decision, the government should have at least been competent enough to have two separate plans of action. I mean, they did have months to prepare for either outcome.
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A sad truth.
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Scotland will angle at splitting from the UK. They unanimously voted to remain in the EU, and however much people bring up the fact they voted to remain in the UK, that doesn't change the fact that public opinion can change. From what I can tell the Scottish only wanted to stay part of the UK under the impression that they would remain in the EU, which clearly hasn't happened. The SNP, who also did surprisingly well in the last general election, exist for the sole purpose of looking after Scottish interest and they will be angling hugely for the chance to split from the UK now that we have left the EU. This kind of scenario is exactly what they as a party needed. They have a very strong standpoint based on this result.

In my opinion, David Cameron's resignation is a disaster. He was honestly the only politician that I thought was capable of being the Prime Minister. The rest of his party, such as Boris Johnson and Michael Gove are utter jokes and Jeremy Corbyn even more so. Labour would be in a better position if they got rid of Corbyn and elected somebody else as the leader of their party. If they chose someone remotely intelligent and respectable they'd do much better up against the current Tory front-runner and general buffoon, Boris Johnson.

I am in agreement with Mitas in that both parties should have prepared for what might happen in both outcomes, not wait until the results were announced and leave the country in political turmoil. I'm also very annoyed because I wanted the UK to remain in the EU. The world is a global community now, we have to move and keep up with the times and learn to preserve the interests of our country at the same time, not isolate ourselves.

The thing that pisses me off most is that many of the people who voted 'leave' were old people, who clearly only did it because they have the mistaken belief that by leaving the EU things would end up like this romanticised view of the UK they have in their heads, when actually all it will do is regress us back to how things were in the 1970s. Not only that, those old people will probably be dead within the next 10-15 years and have f***ed everything up for the youth and children of this country.
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Yeah that's exceedingly stupid, you'd think the older generations would be capable of making more informed decisions but apparently not.

We seriously need to have a politics be a part of basic education everyone should know at least something about this but there were millions of people who didn't even f***ing know what the EU is.

Young people are stupid but not beyond teaching, unlike what old people seem to be.


All this doom and gloom is pretty annoying, what's done is done not sure why most of the country seems to want to b*** about it rather than make the best out of the situation. This may even end up being a good thing, not if people just sit fighting over it though.
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